Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

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Sabrina
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Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by Sabrina » Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:09 pm

Hello all, I have found that many brands like Amcrest have terrible apps that defeat the whole purpose of having security systems. So I am starting with a good app, this one, and am trying to choose compatible hardware now.

Can anyone recommend an outdoor PTZ POE camera (up to $300) and NVR (4 channel) that work reliably with Blue Iris app on iOs?

I have spent countless hours researching and feel more confused than ever :? Many, many thanks :D
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by TimG » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:33 pm

Hi, why would you need a NVR ? BI5 already does the recording for you, and you need BI5 to be able to use the BI app on IOS :?

As for cameras, I like Dahua starlight very much 8-)
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by Sabrina » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:17 pm

Thanks Tim, I told you I was confused. So if no NVR where do I plug in the POE cameras? I will also look for a newbie Blue Iris vid that explains how this would work.
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by IAmATeaf » Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:49 pm

For a BI system, you will need a PC on which to run the software. In that PC I recommend a min of 12Gb of RAM, and SSD as a boot drive and standard disk space on which to save recordings.

You’ll then need a POE switch into which your BI PC will be plugged and all of your POE cams.

For cabling, you’ll need to run cat5e or better cabling from the POE switch to each cam.

For cams, don’t get obsessed with mexapixels, go for known brands such as Dahua or Hikvision and make sure the cams have good night time capabilities. Current Dahua favourite is the 4Mp 5442 which is available as a fixed lens or varifocal.

Other things to consider are maybe separating the cam network from your home network, this can be done either using VLANs or much simpler is to stick another network card in the PC PC. One network card will connect to the POE switch, the other would be plugged into your home network. This would then allow you to access BI remotely.

That’s all I can think of in terms of a brief summary/overview.
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by Matts1984 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:41 pm

Yep unless you already have the NVR and are trying to find a way to incorporate it, don't bother. The BI system is your NVR so when building out the hardware, follow IAmATeafs recommendation. In a perfect world you want one drive (SSD would be nice and doesn't need to be huge) for your boot drive and to install BI. Have standard mechanical disk(s) for all your video storage - the more the better but how much really depends on the number of cameras, video quality, and how much time you want stored. 12 to 16GB of RAM is generally plenty yet still pretty low cost. The biggest area to not skimp, as is ALL over this forum, is the CPU. You'll be most happy with a newer Intel CPU and you'll probably kick yourself otherwise.

A simple PoE switch is the easiest and cleanest way to manage cabling, and then yes you'd need a single Cat5e (or better) run to each camera. You originally did ask about cameras, the best part about BI is that it is so flexible on cameras. I've personally been quite happy with my SV3C cameras (only knock really is the firmware update page was hard to find!) but the Dahua/Hikvision recommendation is solid. Most cameras - and I actually mean almost all - on the market are rebrands of one or the other. For example, SV3C cameras are Dahua rebrands.

Network architecture for security and efficiency as well as remote access capabilities is the next area for thought!
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by Sabrina » Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:47 pm

Thanks everyone for your suggestions and advice. I was looking for a reliable system for my cottage to keep an eye on things remotely. I did not want want to get a pc. The intent was two POE (cottage Is already wired wired) PTZ cameras that through an app I could control everything. I current have wireless Blink, but it has obvious limitations. Can I setup a decent system using BI and no PC? Still confused :|
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by TimG » Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:37 pm

Hi, BI5 needs a fairly powerful Windows pc, and a techie outlook on life to set it up, and keep it going. It won't work without a pc running 24/7 at the remote location. The other options are NVR's (which are like a mini pc running linux) or cloud solutions, but since this is the BI forum, it is what we tend to use 8-)
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by IAmATeaf » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:46 pm

As mentioned above, BI runs on a PC and serves as the NVR. If you don’t want a PC then get an NVR but make sure it’s the same brand as the cams else some functions might not work properly.
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Re: Help! Need Brands that works with Blue Iris

Post by TimG » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:09 pm

The intent was two POE (cottage Is already wired wired) PTZ cameras
I believe ptz cameras are a "nice to have" to supplement a multiple fixed camera system. If you only had two ptz's, then they would probably be fitted on the front and back of the house, and would would probably be looking the wrong way when the bad guys visited you. It is easy to be misled by Hollywood films, and of course they even have software to increase the resolution of an image. Fanciful stuff, but it makes great movies.

The biggest problem with a store bought nvr system, is that the cameras probably don't see very well in the dark. When you need them the most...

More research required :shock:
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