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VerySecure
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sub streams

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I am a little confused over the use of sub-streams.

The manual refers to sub-streams being used with 4MP cameras. I have 2MP cameras that provide a sub-stream. I have "Record dual-stream if available" enabled but there doesn't seem to be any evidence that this is in fact working.

Can someone clarify?
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Re: sub streams

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You can definitely use sub streams on other camera resolutions. Sub streams are used for processing/monitoring for motion while the main stream is used for viewing and is what is recorded. You're correct I think in some funky way both are recorded now or something, but that aside, using sub streams should significantly lower CPU usage as all processing is done on a much lower resolution feed.

You can verify yours is set up by viewing the Blue Iris Status window... on the Cameras tab should show a FPS/Key and associated Bitrate AS WELL AS a Sub FPS/Key and Sub Bitrate. If the sub isn't showing anything, you're not configured right - yet.
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Matts1984 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:03 am You can verify yours is set up by viewing the Blue Iris Status window... on the Cameras tab should show a FPS/Key and associated Bitrate AS WELL AS a Sub FPS/Key and Sub Bitrate. If the sub isn't showing anything, you're not configured right - yet.
Thanks for the info Matts1984. Both "Sub FPS/key" and "Sub Bitrate" columns are clear of any data (I hadn't noticed these fields before). I obviously don't have things configured right, but I don't know where the problem is. I'll have to poke around some more....
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Here’s a question I’ve been meaning to ask. With configuring a camera as a single dual stream, can you continuously record the SD stream and only trigger recordings on the HD stream?

Ideally it would be a single recording that Upgrades to HD when triggered.
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I found my problem. The cameras were not configured properly. I had used the "Find/Inspect" tool which auto populated the various fields. It had defined my cameras a Foscam models when they are actually Hosafe models. The config did not include sub-stream definitions. Oddly enough, when I used the Hosafe config (from the drop down selection) it did not work either. I did a manual config of both streams and now everything is working OK.

Thanks to Matts1984 for giving me a nudge in the right direction.
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Re: sub streams

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Glad to hear it's working!

And - continuing to help the community yourself by reporting back. To often people just disappear once they fix their problem
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Re: sub streams

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atreyu: Here’s a question I’ve been meaning to ask. With configuring a camera as a single dual stream, can you continuously record the SD stream and only trigger recordings on the HD stream?

Ideally it would be a single recording that Upgrades to HD when triggered.
Hmm, an interesting thought but I think there would be problems. Is this how it works with a different NVR system that you have seen ?

My main cameras record 24/7 and that logic would reduce the chance of me finding out what happened just before the camera triggered, as it would be in SD. Would there be any point in recording the SD before the trigger ? If it is to save hard drive space - and the SD video is useless for identifying issues - then you may as well only record in HD when it triggers. My "Storage" drive is a 12.7TB drive, and that gives me three months of video with five cameras. Where it might be useful, is if you have many more cameras.

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