Cheap GeForce vs Intel HD graphics integrated on processor

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Cheap GeForce vs Intel HD graphics integrated on processor

Post by Nortonics » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:17 am

A local fellow has a bunch of new old-stock MSI GeForce 710 2Gb video cards for available for $25. Spec's here: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GT-71 ... cification

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Would this work well on a BI5 system rather than running the Intel HD graphics integrated on processor i7 gen6?

Yeah, I know it's a cheap outdated card, but seems like it might be a great match for my regular old VGA monitor setup, offloading graphics from the main processor to this card.

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Re: Cheap GeForce vs Intel HD graphics integrated on processor

Post by TimG » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:52 pm

As a simple graphics card it looks OK, and it should be fine for VGA resolution. I don't think it would do 4k very well, but if that isn't a problem...
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Re: Cheap GeForce vs Intel HD graphics integrated on processor

Post by PaulDaisy » Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:52 pm

The CUDA 11.7 toolkit used by CP AI requires compute capability 3.7 and above. GT 710 has compute capability 3.5, so at least on paper it does not look like it would support CUDA-accelerated CP AI processing.
CUDA does not help with the regular video stream processing anyway, but the Intel accelerator on the CPU would be used for H.264 either with or without CUDA. That said, using non-hardware accelerated H.265 is probably far more efficient anyway, if your cameras support it (I personally don't buy cameras that don't support H.265).
The GT 710 would be fine as a basic video card of course.
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Re: Cheap GeForce vs Intel HD graphics integrated on processor

Post by Thixotropic » Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:19 pm

PaulDaisy wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:52 pm The CUDA 11.7 toolkit used by CP AI requires compute capability 3.7 and above.
Yes, and I think Mike Lud mentioned that anything from the 10x0 series and up would work with CUDA, e.g. 10x0, 20x0, etc, but nothing below that series/level has CUDA cores if I understood him correctly.

1080 cards are sort of affordable right now, $250 ~ $300ish and there appear to be plenty for sale on ebay.

I'm debating if swapping my just-acquired 1080Ti for a 2080Ti is worth it (I'd get a good price from my son, lol). Seems like it might, so I'm tempted...
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Re: Cheap GeForce vs Intel HD graphics integrated on processor

Post by kogashuko » Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:45 pm

I came here looking for this type of thread. I have heard good things about intel i-graphics. Apparently, very efferent to power ratio. I have never used it because I am running a duel Xeon server and getting good performance. I have a 1080ti that I have considered slapping in when I do a rebuild (just picked up a Dell R730 I am going to use as a NAS / Plex box and want to install BI on a VM in that since it is silly to just have two huge multicore CPUs just idling most of the time.) I also have a 1030 and a 1050. I am considering using one of those for Plex transcoding. The 1080ti seems like overkill with the power rating. I havnt seemed to have gotten person detection working so ultimately it will be dependent on the power draw when I set that up. Also, how is the ARC platform? I know it is a cheaper GPU but they also dont draw a lot of power. Are they comparable to the integrated quicksync or is that completely different all together?

I guess it is kind of silly to complain about power when I have seen some of the NVRs at work that take 12 3.5in HDDs and have two or the GPUs in them for AI.
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