Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Matts1984
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by Matts1984 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:25 am

Nice! Always exciting when someone buys new toys.. kind of like buying a new car (only a LOT less money :) )

Sounds like a really good deal, enjoy! Hit us up again if you run into configuration questions or issues. Blue Iris and camera settings can be set to completely cripple even the most modern CPU out there - or it can be tuned to optimize the CPU and still give a great experience (Direct to Disk, watch your FPS, substreams, etc). There are some great recommendation guides out there. I initially was at 50-60% on 3 cameras to now being around 10% with 9 cameras.
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ivamar
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by ivamar » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:08 pm

Im on my setup.

is it possible that h265+ doesnt work ? seems like its limit by my i7 generation ?
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by HeneryH » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:56 pm

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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by ivamar » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:09 pm

HeneryH wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:56 pm Annotated graphic with gens

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video
Thank you. my cams are h265 at it works. just the h265 plus doenst work ?

so is that sheet wrong ? should i choose h264 for my cams ?
HeneryH
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by HeneryH » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:42 pm

I'm not really sure about the H265+. Not even sure if it is actually part of the standard.
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by leftcoastgeek » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:07 pm

if you record the raw bvr stream instead of transcoding to mp4 or something else, it will take a lot less CPU power. transcoding H265 on the fly is *expensive*
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by Matts1984 » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:55 am

Yeah unless you're seeing network issues or just really trying to cut down on bandwidth consumption (cameras to server so most likely NOT hitting your internet pipe), I wouldn't even worry about H265+. You may even find H264 is more ideal. The lower you go the less compression..... so more bandwidth BUT less CPU crunching. Assuming typical gigabit internal network, you're not even flirting with network loads.
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by HeneryH » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:13 pm

H265 should get you better compression (more days of storage for any disk allocation) and I would think (not sure) that a modern QuickSync Hardware Acceleration should be plenty of horse power.

I just am not sure about the "+" on h265.

I set all my cameras to H265 and let BI write direct to disk. BI decodes the streams on its GPU for motion detection but doesn't need to reencode for writing to disk.
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by Matts1984 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 11:13 am

This is true, potentially better disk compression. I'm not sure of the actual ratios and/or how much you gain and clearly I can't be bothered enough to google it. Since it's fairly easy to change and monitor I'd probably just set it one way and observe. I'm cramming about 3 weeks worth of recordings onto my storage which is more than sufficient for my needs. Obviously very dependent on capacity, number of cameras, FPS, etc.
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Re: Looking for new system, 5-7 cams

Post by HeneryH » Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:11 pm

I totally agree with "just pick one and run with it unless you have problems" philosophy.
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