Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

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Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by nickh66 » Sat May 22, 2021 12:20 pm

Hi everyone,
This is really a question for the BI team directly but in case someone else has some experience to share, that would be great.
I was getting ready to update my BI box to the latest 21H1 update for Windows10 & thought i would check first if anyone has done this yet and if anyone has experienced any issues.
I wondered if the BI team has performed any testing of their own on 21H1 yet to check for potential issues.
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by TimG » Sat May 22, 2021 12:39 pm

Hi nickh66,

This is mainly a user to user help forum - other than the specific support threads - so best to send an email if you want an official response. Have you heard of issues with 21H1 ?

I lock my pc's down until I can fix any issues and have them backed up in case of disaster, but I love a challenge. Presently all running 20H2. I will have a check if I can update to 21H1...

Nope. "Throttled availability" so not in the backwaters of the UK yet. I don't think I'll go searching for it as I need to defrost a freezer. What we need is a volunteer to try it :?
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by SolarEclipse » Sat May 22, 2021 2:13 pm

Just force applied the 21H1 update onto my system (a virtual machine) and so far so good.
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by TimG » Sun May 23, 2021 11:21 am

Thanks for the feedback. And my freezer is looking good too 8-)
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by IAmATeaf » Sun May 23, 2021 8:36 pm

My BI PC upgrade to 21H1 last week and so far I’ve not really noticed any issues.

The upgrade was also nice and quick, none of this down for 20+ mins as is the norm for OS version upgrades in the past.
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by Thixotropic » Wed May 26, 2021 3:54 am

It's funny you should mention 21H1, I just used the MSMG Toolkit to make a stripped down Win 10 ISO to install on my soon-to-be-refreshed BI box.

I took out allllll the crap- Cortana, all the XBox junk, telemetry, all the OOBE crap, the User Experience garbage, and a ton of other stuff.

The install disk went from 5.3Gb to about 4.2Gb, knocked out more than a gigabyte of pure bloat. Well worth the ~30 mins or so to do it.

I'm scheduling the refresh for later this week or maybe this weekend and I'm eager to see how it goes.
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by TimG » Wed May 26, 2021 5:03 pm

I've just done the 21H1 update on one of my Win10 servers running BI5, and all is well.
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by MikeBwca » Wed May 26, 2021 8:26 pm

Why are the new Windows versions sounding like Covid variants! :shock:
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by Thixotropic » Sun May 30, 2021 3:13 pm

Here's some of the screens from MSMG Toolkit showing some of the stuff you can completely obliterate from a Windows install. Since it's the source disk it makes a cleaner install, and none of this stuff is going to mysteriously come back through an update (supposedly).
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Cortana, GONE. XBox crap, GONE. Windows Store, Solitaire, Screen Sketch, Advertising, 3D bullsh*t...all GONE.
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What's next?
Content Delivery junk, Eye Control, Narrator, Smart Screen, Retail Demo, Azure junk, Edge Developer tools, Facial Recognition, etc etc all GONE.
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Finally, get rid of telemetry and other privacy-breaching junk.
Unified Telemetry Client, Location Service, Windows Insider cruft...GONE.
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There's more, but you get the idea. Rip all that garbage out and be done with it once and for all. :) All this crap runs in the background and sucks up memory and CPU cycles.

The fact is that I'm never ever going to connect an XBox to this PC, so why have the XBox junk running 24/7 eating up memory? I'm never going to use the Retail Demo or the Edge Developer tools, why waste my CPU on them? And so on...

You can also add stuff to the ISO and integrate it into the install. For example, if you wanted to include an install for SnagIt or Teamviewer or GIMP or whatever, you can do it and make a custom-tailored install disk with all the goodies that you normally install after Windows.
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Re: Question about Windows10 Update 21H1

Post by TimG » Mon May 31, 2021 12:01 pm

No solitaire :o

I've used a few of these things over the years, the last one being debloater. I can feel a Win10 re-install coming up this year :?
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